Section 124
Socrates. And I think that even Lampido, the daughter of Leotychides, wife of Archidamus, and mother of Agis, who all became kings, would also marvel, looking at the things belonging to them, if you intend to contend with her son having been brought up so poorly. And yet does it not seem to be a shameful thing, if the wives of our enemies consider better concerning us what sort of men we must be to attempt against them, than we do concerning ourselves? But, my blessed friend, persuaded by me and by the inscription at Delphi, know yourself, that these are our adversaries, and not the ones you think; against whom we could not prevail over a single one in any other way, except by care and skill. If you are left behind in these, you will also be left behind in becoming renowned among both the Greeks and the barbarians, which I think you love as no one else loves anything else.
Alcibiades. What sort of care must I take, Socrates? Can you explain? For you most certainly seem to have spoken the truth.
Socrates. Yes; but indeed it is a matter of common deliberation in what way we would become the best possible. For I tell you I do not say that you must be educated, while I do not; for there is nothing in which I differ from you except in one thing.
Alcibiades. In what?
Socrates. My guardian is better and wiser than Pericles, your guardian.
Alcibiades. Who is this, Socrates?
Socrates. A god, Alcibiades, who did not allow me to converse with you before this day; trusting in whom I say that eminence will come to you through no one else but me.
Alcibiades. You are joking, Socrates.
Socrates. Perhaps; however, I speak the truth, that we need care, all men more or less, but we two very much indeed.
Alcibiades. That I do, you do not lie.
Socrates. Nor indeed that I do.
Alcibiades. What then should we do?
Socrates. We must not give up nor be soft, my comrade.
Alcibiades. No indeed, that is not fitting, Socrates.
Socrates. No, it is not, but we must consider together. Tell me then; for we say that we wish to become the best men. Is it not so?
Alcibiades. Yes.
Socrates. Best in what virtue?
Alcibiades. Clearly the one that good men possess.
Socrates. Good at what?
Alcibiades. Clearly at managing affairs.
Socrates. What kind of affairs? Horsemanship?
Alcibiades. Certainly not.
Socrates. For we would go to horsemen for that?
Alcibiades. Yes.
Socrates. But do you mean naval affairs?
Alcibiades. No.
Socrates. For we would go to sailors for that?
Alcibiades. Yes.
Socrates. But what kind of affairs? Those which who manage?
Alcibiades. Those which the noble and good among the Athenians manage.
Τμῆμα 124
ΣΩ. οἶμαι δὲ κἂν Λαμπιδώ, τὴν Λεωτυχίδου μὲν θυγατέρα, Ἀρχιδάμου δὲ γυναῖκα, Ἄγιδος δὲ μητέρα, οἳ πάντες βασιλῆς γεγόνασιν, θαυμάσαι ἂν καὶ ταύτην εἰς τὰ παρὰ σφίσιν ὑπάρχοντα ἀποβλέψασαν, εἰ σὺ ἐν νῷ ἔχεις τῷ ὑεῖ αὐτῆς διαγωνίζεσθαι οὕτω κακῶς ἠγμένος. καίτοι οὐκ αἰσχρὸν δοκεῖ εἶναι, εἰ αἱ τῶν πολεμίων γυναῖκες βέλτιον περὶ ἡμῶν διανοοῦνται, οἵους χρὴ ὄντας σφίσιν ἐπιχειρεῖν, ἢ ἡμεῖς περὶ ἡμῶν αὐτῶν; ἀλλʼ, ὦ μακάριε, πειθόμενος ἐμοί τε καὶ τῷ ἐν Δελφοῖς γράμματι, γνῶθι σαυτόν, ὅτι οὗτοι ἡμῖν εἰσιν ἀντίπαλοι, ἀλλʼ οὐχ οὓς σὺ οἴει· ὧν ἄλλῳ μὲν οὐδʼ ἂν ἑνὶ περιγενοίμεθα, εἰ μή περ ἐπιμελείᾳ γε ἂν καὶ τέχνῃ. ὧν σὺ εἰ ἀπολειφθήσῃ, καὶ τοῦ ὀνομαστὸς γενέσθαι ἀπολειφθήσῃ ἐν Ἕλλησί τε καὶ βαρβάροις, οὗ μοι δοκεῖς ἐρᾶν ὡς οὐδεὶς ἄλλος ἄλλου.
ΑΛ. τίνα οὖν χρὴ τὴν ἐπιμέλειαν, ὦ Σώκρατες, ποιεῖσθαι; ἔχεις ἐξηγήσασθαι; παντὸς γὰρ μᾶλλον ἔοικας ἀληθῆ εἰρηκότι.
ΣΩ. ναί· ἀλλὰ γὰρ κοινὴ βουλὴ ᾧτινι τρόπῳ ἂν ὅτι βέλτιστοι γενοίμεθα. ἐγὼ γάρ τοι οὐ περὶ μὲν σοῦ λέγω ὡς χρὴ παιδευθῆναι, περὶ ἐμοῦ δὲ οὔ· οὐ γὰρ ἔσθʼ ὅτῳ σου διαφέρω πλήν γʼ ἑνί.
ΑΛ. τίνι;
ΣΩ. ὁ ἐπίτροπος ὁ ἐμὸς βελτίων ἐστὶ καὶ σοφώτερος ἢ Περικλῆς ὁ σός.
ΑΛ. τίς οὗτος, ὦ Σώκρατες;
ΣΩ. θεός, ὦ Ἀλκιβιάδη, ὅσπερ σοί με οὐκ εἴα πρὸ τῆσδε τῆς ἡμέρας διαλεχθῆναι· ᾧ καὶ πιστεύων λέγω ὅτι ἡ ἐπιφάνεια διʼ οὐδενὸς ἄλλου σοι ἔσται ἢ διʼ ἐμοῦ.
ΑΛ. παίζεις, ὦ Σώκρατες.
ΣΩ. ἴσως· λέγω μέντοι ἀληθῆ, ὅτι ἐπιμελείας δεόμεθα, μᾶλλον μὲν πάντες ἄνθρωποι, ἀτὰρ νώ γε καὶ μάλα σφόδρα.
ΑΛ. ὅτι μὲν ἐγώ, οὐ ψεύδῃ.
ΣΩ. οὐδὲ μὴν ὅτι γε ἐγώ.
ΑΛ. τί οὖν ἂν ποιοῖμεν;
ΣΩ. οὐκ ἀπορρητέον οὐδὲ μαλθακιστέον, ὦ ἑταῖρε.
ΑΛ. οὔτοι δὴ πρέπει γʼ, ὦ Σώκρατες.
ΣΩ. οὐ γάρ, ἀλλὰ σκεπτέον κοινῇ. καί μοι λέγε· φαμὲν γὰρ δὴ ὡς ἄριστοι βούλεσθαι γενέσθαι. ἦ γάρ;
ΑΛ. ναί.
ΣΩ. τίνα ἀρετήν;
ΑΛ. δῆλον ὅτι ἥνπερ οἱ ἄνδρες οἱ ἀγαθοί.
ΣΩ. οἱ τί ἀγαθοί;
ΑΛ. δῆλον ὅτι οἱ πράττειν τὰ πράγματα.
ΣΩ. ποῖα; ἆρα τὰ ἱππικά;
ΑΛ. οὐ δῆτα.
ΣΩ. παρὰ τοὺς ἱππικοὺς γὰρ ἂν ᾖμεν;
ΑΛ. ναί.
ΣΩ. ἀλλὰ τὰ ναυτικὰ λέγεις;
ΑΛ. οὔ.
ΣΩ. παρὰ τοὺς ναυτικοὺς γὰρ ἂν ᾖμεν;
ΑΛ. ναί.
ΣΩ. ἀλλὰ ποῖα; ἃ τίνες πράττουσιν;
ΑΛ. ἅπερ Ἀθηναίων οἱ καλοὶ κἀγαθοί.