Section 100
"But what I am saying is nothing new," he said. "It is what I have never stopped saying, both in past times and in our recent argument. I am going to try to show you the form of cause I have busied myself with, and I return to those much-discussed things, beginning from them. I hypothesize that there is a Beautiful itself by itself, and a Good, and a Great, and all the rest. If you grant me these and agree they exist, I hope to display the cause from them, and discover that the soul is immortal." "Grant that I give them to you," said Cebes, "and hurry to the conclusion." "Consider the next step," he said, "and see if you agree. It appears to me that if anything else is beautiful besides the Beautiful itself, it is beautiful for no other reason than because it partakes of that Beautiful. And I say the same for everything. Do you agree with this kind of cause?" "I agree," he said. "Then I no longer understand those other sophisticated causes. If someone tells me why a thing is beautiful, saying it has a vibrant color, or a specific shape, or something like that, I bid farewell to all of them—for they all confuse me. I hold simply, plainly, and perhaps foolishly to this: nothing else makes it beautiful except the presence of, or communion with, or somehow the sharing in, that Beautiful itself. I do not insist on how it happens, but only that all beautiful things are beautiful by the Beautiful. This seems to me the safest answer to give myself and others. Clinging to this, I think I shall never fall: it is safe to answer that beautiful things are beautiful by the Beautiful. Doesn't it seem so to you?" "It does." "And large things are large by Largeness, and larger things are larger by Largeness, and smaller things are smaller by Smallness?" "Yes." "So you would not accept it if someone said that one man is larger than another by a head, and the smaller is smaller by the very same thing (a head). You would insist you simply mean that everything larger than another is larger by nothing else than Largeness, and the smaller is smaller by nothing else than Smallness. I think you would be afraid of encountering a contrary argument if you said someone is larger by a head: first, that the larger is larger and the smaller is smaller by the exact same thing (a head); and second, that the larger man is larger by a head, which is a small thing—and it is surely monstrous that someone should be large by something small. Would you not fear this?" Cebes laughed and said, "I certainly would."
Τμῆμα 100
ΦΑΙΔ. ἴσως μὲν οὖν ᾧ εἰκάζω τρόπον τινὰ οὐκ ἔοικεν· οὐ γὰρ πάνυ συγχωρῶ τὸν ἐν τοῖς λόγοις σκοπούμενον τὰ ὄντα ἐν εἰκόσι μᾶλλον σκοπεῖν ἢ τὸν ἐν τοῖς ἔργοις. ἀλλ’ οὖν δὴ ταύτῃ γε ὥρμησα, καὶ ὑποθέμενος ἑκάστοτε λόγον ὃν ἂν κρίνω ἐρρωμενέστατον εἶναι, ἃ μὲν ἄν μοι δοκῇ τούτῳ συμφωνεῖν τίθημι ὡς ἀληθῆ ὄντα, καὶ περὶ αἰτίας καὶ περὶ τῶν ἄλλων ἁπάντων ὄντων, ἃ δ’ ἂν μή, ὡς οὐκ ἀληθῆ. βούλομαι δέ σοι σαφέστερον εἰπεῖν ἃ λέγω· οἶμαι γάρ σε νῦν οὐ μανθάνειν. οὐ μὰ τὸν Δία, ἔφη ὁ Κέβης, οὐ σφόδρα. ἀλλ᾽, ἦ δ’ ὅς, ὧδε λέγω, οὐδὲν καινόν, ἀλλ’ ἅπερ ἀεί τε ἄλλοτε καὶ ἐν τῷ παρεληλυθότι λόγῳ οὐδὲν πέπαυμαι λέγων. ἔρχομαι γὰρ δὴ ἐπιχειρῶν σοι ἐπιδείξασθαι τῆς αἰτίας τὸ εἶδος ὃ πεπραγμάτευμαι, καὶ εἶμι πάλιν ἐπ᾽ ἐκεῖνα τὰ πολυθρύλητα καὶ ἄρχομαι ἀπ’ ἐκείνων, ὑποθέμενος εἶναί τι καλὸν αὐτὸ καθ’ αὑτὸ καὶ ἀγαθὸν καὶ μέγα καὶ τἆλλα πάντα· ἃ εἴ μοι δίδως τε καὶ συγχωρεῖς εἶναι ταῦτα, ἐλπίζω σοι ἐκ τούτων τὴν αἰτίαν ἐπιδείξειν καὶ ἀνευρήσειν ὡς ἀθάνατον ἡ ψυχή. ἀλλὰ μήν, ἔφη ὁ Κέβης, ὡς διδόντος σοι οὐκ ἂν φθάνοις περαίνων. σκόπει δή, ἔφη, τὰ ἑξῆς ἐκείνοις ἐάν σοι συνδοκῇ ὥσπερ ἐμοί. φαίνεται γάρ μοι, εἴ τί ἐστιν ἄλλο καλὸν πλὴν αὐτὸ τὸ καλόν, οὐδὲ δι’ ἓν ἄλλο καλὸν εἶναι ἢ διότι μετέχει ἐκείνου τοῦ καλοῦ· καὶ πάντα δὴ οὕτως λέγω. τῇ τοιᾷδε αἰτίᾳ συγχωρεῖς; συγχωρῶ, ἔφη. οὐ τοίνυν, ἦ δ’ ὅς, ἔτι μανθάνω οὐδὲ δύναμαι τὰς ἄλλας αἰτίας τὰς σοφὰς ταύτας γιγνώσκειν· ἀλλ’ ἐάν τίς μοι λέγῃ δι’ ὅτι καλόν ἐστιν ὁτιοῦν, ἢ χρῶμα εὐανθὲς ἔχον ἢ σχῆμα ἢ ἄλλο ὁτιοῦν τῶν τοιούτων, τὰ μὲν ἄλλα χαίρειν ἐῶ, — ταράττομαι γὰρ ἐν τοῖς ἄλλοις πᾶσι — τοῦτο δὲ ἁπλῶς καὶ ἀτέχνως καὶ ἴσως εὐήθως ἔχω παρ’ ἐμαυτῷ, ὅτι οὐκ ἄλλο τι ποιεῖ αὐτὸ καλὸν ἢ ἡ ἐκείνου τοῦ καλοῦ εἴτε παρουσία εἴτε κοινωνία εἴτε ὅπῃ δὴ καὶ ὅπως προσγενομένη· οὐ γὰρ ἔτι τοῦτο διισχυρίζομαι, ἀλλ’ ὅτι τῷ καλῷ πάντα τὰ καλὰ γίγνεται καλά. τοῦτο γάρ μοι δοκεῖ ἀσφαλέστατον εἶναι καὶ ἐμαυτῷ ἀποκρίνασθαι καὶ ἄλλῳ, καὶ τούτου ἐχόμενος ἡγοῦμαι οὐκ ἄν ποτε πεσεῖν, ἀλλ’ ἀσφαλὲς εἶναι καὶ ἐμοὶ καὶ ὁτῳοῦν ἄλλῳ ἀποκρίνασθαι ὅτι τῷ καλῷ τὰ καλὰ γίγνεται καλά· ἢ οὐ καὶ σοὶ δοκεῖ; δοκεῖ. καὶ μεγέθει ἄρα τὰ μεγάλα μεγάλα καὶ τὰ μείζω μείζω, καὶ σμικρότητι τὰ ἐλάττω ἐλάττω; ναί.