SOCRATES. So you see, Minos was the greatest of all kings and lawgivers, the one who best discovered what is, and who established true laws for his people, learning them directly from Zeus. The fact that the Athenians hated him and spoke ill of him in tragedies does not change the truth. For the greatest proof of his excellence is that his laws have made the Cretans and the Spartans well-governed and happy for so many generations.

COMRADE. It seems you are right, Socrates. The evidence of his laws is stronger than the tales of the tragic poets.

SOCRATES. Now let us return to our original inquiry. We said that law is the discovery of what is, and that the true laws are the writings of the experts, the good kings and statesmen who know how to rule the souls of men. Just as the writings of doctors are the laws of health for the body, the writings of good kings are the laws of virtue for the soul. And the one who knows best what is good for the soul is the one who can establish the best laws.