Section 535
ION. By Zeus, you certainly do! You somehow touch my soul with your words, Socrates, and it seems to me that it is indeed by divine dispensation that good poets interpret these things from the gods to us.
SOCRATES. And do not you rhapsodes, in turn, interpret the words of the poets?
ION. We do.
SOCRATES. So you are interpreters of interpreters?
ION. Exactly.
SOCRATES. Now tell me this, Ion, and do not hide anything from me. When you speak epic verses well and strike the spectators with the greatest awe—when you sing of Odysseus leaping upon the threshold, revealing himself to the suitors and pouring out the arrows at his feet, or of Achilles rushing at Hector, or of the pitiful things concerning Andromache, Hecuba, or Priam—are you in your right mind at that moment, or are you beside yourself? Does your soul, through inspiration, believe it is present at the very events you are describing, whether in Ithaca or Troy?
ION. What a clear proof you bring me, Socrates! I will tell you without hiding anything. When I recount a tale of pity, my eyes fill with tears. When I tell of something terrifying or dreadful, the hair on my head stands up from fear, and my heart pounds.
SOCRATES. Now tell me, Ion, is a man in his right mind when, dressed in colorful robes and golden crowns, he starts weeping at a sacrifice or festival, though he has lost none of his finery? Or when he shrinks back in fear, standing among twenty thousand friendly people, none of whom is stripping or wronging him?
ION. No, by Zeus, Socrates, he is not entirely in his right mind, if I am to speak the truth.
SOCRATES. And are you aware that you produce these same effects on most of the spectators?
ION. I know it very well. For I look down from the platform and see them weeping, or gazing at me in terror and awe, matching my words. I must pay close attention to them, for if I make them weep, I will laugh when I collect my money; but if I make them laugh, I will weep for losing my pay.
Τμῆμα 535
ΙΩΝ. ναὶ μὰ τὸν Δία, ἔμοιγε· ἅπτει γάρ πώς μου τοῖς λόγοις τῆς ψυχῆς, ὦ Σώκρατες, καί μοι δοκοῦσι θείᾳ μοίρᾳ ἡμῖν παρὰ τῶν θεῶν ταῦτα οἱ ἀγαθοὶ ποιηταὶ ἑρμηνεύειν.
ΣΩ. οὐκοῦν ὑμεῖς αὖ οἱ ῥαψῳδοὶ τὰ τῶν ποιητῶν ἑρμηνεύετε;
ΙΩΝ. καὶ τοῦτο ἀληθὲς λέγεις.
ΣΩ. οὐκοῦν ἑρμηνέων ἑρμηνῆς γίγνεσθε;
ΙΩΝ. παντάπασί γε.
ΣΩ. ἔχε δή μοι τόδε εἰπέ, ὦ Ἴων, καὶ μὴ ἀποκρύψῃ ὅτι ἄν σε ἔρωμαι· ὅταν εὖ εἴπῃς ἔπη καὶ ἐκπλήξῃς μάλιστα τοὺς θεωμένους, ἢ τὸν Ὀδυσσέα ὅταν ἐπὶ τὸν οὐδὸν ἐφαλλόμενον ᾁδῃς, ἐκφανῆ γιγνόμενον τοῖς μνηστῆρσι καὶ ἐκχέοντα τοὺς ὀιστοὺς πρὸ τῶν ποδῶν, ἢ Ἀχιλλέα ἐπὶ τὸν Ἕκτορα ὁρμῶντα, ἢ καὶ τῶν περὶ Ἀνδρομάχην ἐλεινῶν τι ἢ περὶ Ἑκάβην ἢ περὶ Πρίαμον, τότε πότερον ἔμφρων εἶ ἢ ἔξω σαυτοῦ γίγνῃ καὶ παρὰ τοῖς πράγμασιν οἴεταί σου εἶναι ἡ ψυχὴ οἷς λέγεις ἐνθουσιάζουσα, ἢ ἐν Ἰθάκῃ οὖσιν ἢ ἐν Τροίᾳ ἢ ὅπως ἂν καὶ τὰ ἔπη ἔχῃ;
ΙΩΝ. ὡς ἐναργές μοι τοῦτο, ὦ Σώκρατες, τὸ τεκμήριον εἶπες· οὐ γάρ σε ἀποκρυψάμενος ἐρῶ. ἐγὼ γὰρ ὅταν ἐλεινόν τι λέγω, δακρύων ἐμπίμπλανταί μου οἱ ὀφθαλμοί· ὅταν τε φοβερὸν ἢ δεινόν, ὀρθαὶ αἱ τρίχες ἵστανται ὑπὸ φόβου καὶ ἡ καρδία πηδᾷ.
ΣΩ. τί οὖν; φῶμεν, ὦ Ἴων, ἔμφρονα εἶναι τότε τοῦτον τὸν ἄνθρωπον, ὃς ἂν κεκοσμημένος ἐσθῆτι ποικίλῃ καὶ χρυσοῖσι στεφάνοις κλάῃ τʼ ἐν θυσίαις καὶ ἑορταῖς, μηδὲν ἀπολωλεκὼς τούτων, ἢ φοβῆται πλέον ἢ ἐν δισμυρίοις ἀνθρώποις ἑστηκὼς φιλίοις, μηδενὸς ἀποδύοντος μηδὲ ἀδικοῦντος;
ΙΩΝ. οὐ μὰ τὸν Δία, οὐ πάνυ, ὦ Σώκρατες, ὥς γε τἀληθὲς εἰρῆσθαι.
ΣΩ. οἶσθα οὖν ὅτι καὶ τῶν θεατῶν τοὺς πολλοὺς ταὐτὰ ταῦτα ὑμεῖς ἐργάζεσθε;
ΙΩΝ. καὶ μάλα καλῶς οἶδα· καθορῶ γὰρ ἑκάστοτε αὐτοὺς ἄνωθεν ἀπὸ τοῦ βήματος κλάοντάς τε καὶ δεινὸν ἐμβλέποντας καὶ συνθαμβοῦντας τοῖς λεγομένοις. δεῖ γάρ με καὶ σφόδρʼ αὐτοῖς τὸν νοῦν προσέχειν· ὡς ἐὰν μὲν κλάοντας αὐτοὺς καθίσω, αὐτὸς γελάσομαι ἀργύριον λαμβάνων, ἐὰν δὲ γελῶντας, αὐτὸς κλαύσομαι ἀργύριον ἀπολλύς.